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Pix0te
12/07/2018, 14:09
Buenas a todos, a ver si alguien puede iluminarme que el climatronic (bizona del octavia mk2) me trae loco.
Hace un par de dias que dejo de enfriar, solo consigue bajar 2 grados aprox la temperatura exterior.
Diagnosis del modulo no suelta ningun error, por lo que veo todo funciona, el cicuito coge presion (8 hasta 13 bar tengo visto), y el sensor del evaporador llega a ponerse a 2 grados, por lo que pense que seria problema de los servos de temperatura, aunque me extraña que fallaran los dos lados al mismo tiempo.
Ayer me he puesto a desmontar bajo el volante y aunque incomodo consigo ver el actuador v158, pero por lo que veo funciona correctamente...
Solo se me ocurre que la conexion de la biela con la trampilla este suelta, pero cuando le subo la temperatura al clima ahi si funciona y echa calor.
Alguien ha tenido un problema similar, o tiene idea de que mas mirar?


Un saludo


Wednesday,11,July,2018,22:51:20:62939
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)
Data version: 20130910


Chassis Type: 1Z (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72




00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 021 LB HW: 03G 906 021 LB
Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG 8501
Revision: --H02--- Serial number: SKZ7Z0F3631449
Coding: 0000071
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 6ADB2423458A324E2A7-803F


No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0


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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0021121
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 73E539471240F386991-8026


No fault code found.


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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
Part No: 1Z0 907 044 H
Component: ClimatronicPQ35 084 0305
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3B75D1677A907BC6811-806E


No fault code found.


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E HW: 3C0 937 049 E
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002
Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000004156735
Coding: 11000E030004140000110D000000000000197F075C
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 2B55E1278AF0EB46111-807E


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z1 955 119 A Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer SK351 012 0401
Coding: 00063477
Shop #: WSC 73430


No fault code found.


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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AA HW: 1K0 909 605 AA
Component: Q2 AIRBAG VW8 027 0900
Revision: 11027000 Serial number: 003B5D0Z2VES
Coding: 0020786
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 6BD521274A702B46511-803E


Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME11174552/


Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME11150114T


Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME096E4334A


Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME096B246DJ


No fault code found.


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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K5 953 549 DP HW: 1N0 953 54< AP
Component: Lenkväulenmjdul 030 0070
Shop #: WSC 07894 788 00000
VCID: 881FFEABFBC6605E5C3-80DD


1 Fault Found:
00888 - Wiper Switch for Intermittent Operation (E22)
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent


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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1Z0 920 812 D HW: 1Z0 920 812 D
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 1610
Revision: V1610036 Serial number: SKZ7Z0F3631449
Coding: 0003101
Shop #: WSC 08713 572 81507
VCID: 3561C75F5CB4ADB6775-8060


No fault code found.


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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H12 0150
Revision: H12 Serial number: 31001065151399
Coding: 3D3F034007001302
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 2C57E23B8FFEEC7E18B-8079


2 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 304539 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 17:12:28


01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 11
Reset counter: 44
Mileage: 304539 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 17:12:33




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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1Z0 920 812 D HW: 1Z0 920 812 D
Component: IMMO VD1 1610
Revision: V1610036 Serial number: SKZ7Z0F3631449
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3561C75F5CB4ADB6775-8060


No fault code found.


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D HW: 1T0 959 701 D
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0953
Coding: 0000244
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 387FCE6B4BA650DE6C3-806D


1 Fault Found:
00109 - Left Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L131)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit


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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.068 H07 1806
Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
VCID: 3467FA5B57CEB4BE40B-8061


No fault code found.


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0202
Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 18801A085283007F3F04810500084F01807CA0
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 12345
VCID: 8305E987C2E04306091-80D6


Subsystem 1 - Component: Sounder n.mounted


Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted


Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted


No fault code found.


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D HW: 1T0 959 702 D
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0931
Coding: 0000244
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 3979CB6F70AC49D693D-806C


1 Fault Found:
00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit


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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 J HW: 1K0 959 703 J
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0905
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
VCID: 377DCD5746B85FA6659-8062


1 Fault Found:
00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222)
008 - Implausible Signal


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 J HW: 1K0 959 704 J
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0905
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
VCID: 387FCE6B4BA650DE6C3-806D


No fault code found.


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Estos logs los hice de noche que ya refrescaba, por eso se aprecia menos el fallo, pero de dia a 40 grados es insufrible

Address 08: Auto HVAC (1Z0 907 044 H)


23:01:02 Group 002: Compressor
0.475 A Compressor Current (actual)
0.485 A Compressor Current (specified)
1000 /min Compressor Rotations
2.0 Nm Compressor Load


23:01:02 Group 003
6.2 bar Coolant Pressure
24.8 % Radiator Fan Activation (actual)
30.0 % Radiator Fan Activation (spec.)
OFF Engine Speed (increase)


23:01:02 Group 004: Temperatures
28.0°C Outside Temp. Unfiltered
23.5°C Outside Temp. Regulation
- Fresh Air Intake Temperature
57.0°C Coolant Temperature




23:01:29 Group 005: Outlet/Footwell Blower Temperature
20.0°C Left Outlet Blower Temperature
18.0°C Right Outlet Blower Temperature
26.0°C Left Footwell Blower Temp.
25.0°C Right Footwell Blower Temp.


23:01:29 Group 006
8.0°C Evaporator Temperature
24.0°C Interior Temperature
0.0 Left Sunlight Intensity (G107)
0.0 Right Sunlight Intensity (G134)




23:01:36 Group 007
Turbine Voltage (actual)
3.40 V Turbine Voltage (specified)
4.0 % Turbine Load
14.10 V Voltage (Terminal 30)




23:01:45 Group 008
13.70 V Voltage (Terminal 15)

0.0 % Dimming (Terminal 58d)
0.0 Country


23:01:45 Group 009: Rear Window Heater (Z2) && Aux. Heater
OFF Rear Window Heater (Z2 / Actual)
OFF Rear Window Heater (Z2 / Spec.)
OFF Aux. Heater Status
0.0 Aux. Heater Current


23:01:45 Group 010
OFF Aux. Heater Request
OFF Heater OFF
OFF Back-Up Lights
OFF Front Wiper


23:01:54 Group 011: Air Recirculation Flap Control Motor (V113) / Potentiometer (G143)
48.0 Current Value
47.0 Specified Value
47.0 Minimum Position (Lower Stop/Close)
218.0 Maximum Position (Upper Stop/Open)


23:01:54 Group 012: Left Temperature Flap Control Motor (V158) / Potentiometer (G220)
22.0 Current Value
22.0 Specified Value
22.0 Minimum Position (Lower Stop/Close)
226.0 Maximum Position (Upper Stop/Open)


23:01:54 Group 013: Right Temperature Flap Control Motor (V159) / Potentiometer (G221)
115.0 Current Value
115.0 Specified Value
28.0 Minimum Position (Lower Stop/Close)
223.0 Maximum Position (Upper Stop/Open)


23:02:15 Group 014: Center Flap Control Motor (V70) / Potentiometer (G112)
218.0 Current Value
217.0 Specified Value
231.0 Minimum Position (Lower Stop/Close)
26.0 Maximum Position (Upper Stop/Open)


23:02:15 Group 015: Defroster Flap Control Motor (V107) / Potentiometer (G135)
75.0 Current Value
75.0 Specified Value
226.0 Minimum Position (Lower Stop/Close)
30.0 Maximum Position (Upper Stop/Open)


23:02:15 Group 016: Air Flow Flap Control Motor (V71) / Potentiometer (G113)
232.0 Current Value
232.0 Specified Value
232.0 Minimum Position (Lower Stop/Close)
31.0 Maximum Position (Upper Stop/Open)

Pix0te
13/07/2018, 21:48
Indagando un poco mas, he soltado la bieleta de la v158 por el codo y hecho pruebas. El problema esta en la trampilla, que aunque aparentemente se mueve bien, haciendo tope hacia el lado del frio no consigue cerrar, sigue saliendo aire 15 grados por encima de lo demandado por el climatronic.
Ahora si que no se que mas hacer, por lo que veo para acceder a la trampilla habria que desmontar el salpicadero completo...

codi31
17/07/2018, 12:22
Puedes 1º probar, a hacer un test de trampillas, porque éste test mueve una a una cada trampilla, digamos que las fuerza un poco, y pueden re-colocarse bien. Después de acabar el test, puedes hacer un ajuste básico a dichas trampillas, ésto también viene bastante bien.

El ajuste básico ajusta la posición correcta de cada trampilla y memoriza de nuevo su posición. Esto suele arreglar bastantes problemas de trampillas. Salu2